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Florian's avatar

Eine Person die eine Impfung hatte gilt als Ungeimpft, im Falle JJ galt sie nach 14 Tagen als geimpft, eine Person die eine zweite Impfung hatte und diese <=14 Tage her war, gilt als Ungeimpft.

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Georgi's avatar

I can only agree with you - without the raw data the graphs presented in the RKI reports are just propaganda

Another big elephant in the room, and I think it is like the biggest one by a large margin, is the asymmetric testing: if you test preferably the unvaccinated then you will attribute more unvaxxed cases/hospitalizations/deaths as covid ones.

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cm27874's avatar

Exactly. All through autumn, recorded case rates among school age children were twice as high as among the rest of the population. Now that we have had two weeks of Christmas holidays, they are on par with young adults. Of course, children do not contribute (much) to the RKI data on vaccine efficacy, but the asymmetry is obvious. Oh, and I don't think that children are catching it at school - and if they do, the masks are theatre (which they are anyway).

Regarding asymmetric testing: why is it the case that (as eugyppius has reported on repeatedly) case rates have been higher among the vaccinated in the UK for months (in most age groups)? Is the testing more symmetric there (eg, less testing requirements for unvaccinated people), or are the UK data simply much closer to reality?

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Georgi's avatar

Now, when the kids in UK are about to get back to school they are planning to test them all, not just the unvaxxed. In germany only the unvaxxed high school kids are tested.

If you enter UK from abroad you must take a test regardless if you are vaccinated. So yes, testing is much more symmetric in UK as compared to germany

Also: the new RKI weekly update is there. It is lovely!!!

1. two tables compare separately unvaxxed vs two jabs and unvaxxed vs boosted :)

percentage of the unvaxxed is always higher as you always compare with a subgroup of the vaxxed

2. For omicron they do not present the percentages - way too embarrassing for the narrative

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cm27874's avatar

ad 1: The two tables (3 and 4) are the same as two weeks ago (then 4 and 5). The numbers have changed as expected: the number (and proportion) of vaccine failures (Anteil Impfdurchbrüche) has gone down in the first table because many Vaccinated have progressed to Purgatory or Boostered, and not many Unvaccinated or in Limbo have progressed to Vaccinated. In the second table the number (and proportion) of vaccine failures has gone up because there are so many more Boostered now. This situation with quickly changing population sizes may be subject to all kinds of Fenton/Neil effects, as I hinted at in the article. Furthermore, excluding the cases in Purgatory is close to criminal.

Btw, this time I have not been able to reproduce the figures on vaccine efficacy (p 25). Will try to re-engineer a bit.

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